if u use watercooling or have a koolance watercooling case

[techtvman]

if u use watercooling how is it? what are u getting for temps with it? is there any maintenance, do u have to fill the water tank with water every once and a while. i was thinking about getting the koolance PC2-601BW how are the koolances are there any problems with them and how quiet is it compared to a heatsink and fan?

[GreatWhiteOne]

I have been modding cases for about 3 years or so. I love doing the work. Water cooling was a new thing for me on the case I bought 2 years ago. At that point there were no cases that had it, and not much info. I built it out of a pump from one of the springs at walmart and a tupaware container. My CPU is now cooled using 1/2 tube and swift tech equipment. I also use a 220 watt electric peltzer as well. My CPU has held about -4 Celcius for 4 months now. My system reboots about once every 3 weeks and I am not sure why, could be software. In linux it does not reboot at all. The most important thing in extreme cooling is insulation.... That is the most important for effeciency and lasting working condition. As long as you use distilled water and clense the system, then fill it, run it a couple days and then put new water in it, and some preseritive like water wetter, the system will stay working and you don't have to change it. In a closed system with no resevare, the water will change color, but it is OK... What is really cool is the floresant additive and black lights...

Have fun,

[Evil_Spork]

what water block are you using? i may wanna switch from a maze3 and goto a block with a pelt.. but i would have to do some kinda mod and use a dual psu :roll:

anywho to the point. what you use. full system specs plz! :D

[techtvman]

anyone else have anything to add about watercooling does anyone have or know something about the koolance cases?

[folex187]

I've been experimenting with it for a couple months now and here's what I've learned-
1. Ahanix Resavoirs suck!
2. Water Wetter is my new best friend
3. Do not expect the world out of it. There's only so far your processor will go :x
Anyway, I know someone that has a Koolance case and as far as I know he loves it. He has been able to OC is 2.53ghz P4 to beyond 3ghz and kept it stable. Yoshi tested a koolance case on TSS a week or two ago http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/product...3416954,00.html (http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/products/jump/0,24331,3416954,00.html)
I decided to just piece together my own system after about a month of leaking resavoirs. I was going to buy a Koolance case but I had to ask myself where the fun was in that. I'm the type of person that likes to mess with things and add my own little touch.
-Alex

[neb1211]

i was totally against water cooling my system until i saw the koolance cases. The main thing that i liked was the that they have an extra pump that kicks in if the main pump fails. I don't have a koolance case for my computer just yet but i have heard some good things bout then

[techtvman]

what temps u people getting w/water cooling? hows the maintenace, do i have to fill the tank every once in a while so the waterlevel doesnt get low, does the water get caroded and do u have to change the water often?

[folex187]

I'm probably not the best person to ask about refills being that I've only had systems for a couple months but I've heard you have to add water about every 6-8 months. I never had any water problems because I always have used distilled water and most of the time I used water wetter. I'm getting temps in the high thirties C now.
-Alex

[neb1211]

what temps were you getting before you added the water cooling

[Evil_Spork]

look at my sig for airtemps... water temps comin soon

[Bikr]

I personally hate koolance.. They shove water cooling in people's faces and everyone takes it as they are top of the line.. here's the truth.. they have huge bank accounts and huge business experience.. their systems are just mediocre but they look good and look professional and are out there.. if you do some searches for watercooling you'll find much better equipment elsewhere..


TechTVMan - I run all sysfx equipment and love it do death, one of my machines , is a duron 1ghz chip oc'd @ 1.5ghz and runs at a steady 29c under full load in a 27c ambeint. now that's cooling , it's all done with a dual 80mm rad from sysfx and a sysfx block.. it blows the doors off of any other product i've tried short of TEC cooling.. --Josh

[techtvman]

what is the maintenace on water cooling? do u have to fill the tanks once in a while cause of water evaporation, do u have to change the water for cleaner water what kind of maintenace is required?

[Bikr]

I actually run the coolant from sysfx. this doesn't require much maintnance at all. so far it's been 5 months since my last change on one of my boxes and haven't had to add coolant once yet. So as of right now it'd appear maintnance free.. sometimes you need to change tubing ie.. once a year i'd say just to keep up to date.. But I doubt it's 100% neccisary.

[techtvman]

so theres no need to change water or anything like that?
also what is the price on the sysfx

[Bikr]

Changing the liquid you may want to do when you replace tubes but it's not required. I looked at the sysfx kits today and you can get a full kit with everything for 119.95. Now what exactly that gets you is your choice of pumptanks , you get a radiator but I don't know which one , the layout of the site is kinda iffy.. I'll give them a call sometime and ask them to work on it. I didn't go through the full process so perhaps after you are checking out it lets you pick your radiator choice etc.. If I were you i'd give htem a call and place your order.. but 119.95 looks like their starting price.. for a single CPU system.. enjoy.. =)

[techtvman]

wow thats way cheaper than koolance. so what would you reccomend that i get for my amd athlon 1.4 full sys specs in sig below at website

[Bikr]

If it's a 1.4 running @ 1.4 You won't need much , I love my dual 80mm rad from sysfx.. it keeps my duron 1ghz @ 1.5 at 2c over ambeint , which is unheard of on an OC'd duron.. they run hot. I don't see why this shouldn't get you to within 1 degree of ambient.. So yah.. here's what parts to fill your kit with if you call them.. including part numbers.. *runs to the site..



THE LIST
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CB-280-X - CPU Block

Any of these Tanks Click (http://www.sysfx.net/cgi-bin/cart.exe?cat=Liquid%20Cooling&sub=Pumps&pro=PumpTanks)

EX430 - Dual 80mm Fan Radiator

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tell them you want a kit with those parts.. and you should be good to go for real.. very nice temps The kit will include clamps tubing , hold downs etc.. the new amd hold downs are fantastic if you have a motherboard with the 4 holes in it around the socket. Tell them you want one with an LED in it haha it's probly not even available yet but he'll do it , and then he'll yell at me for telling you they even existed rofl.. anyway , try that out , let me know if you run into any snags..

[techtvman]

how does the sysfx compare to the d-tek. if the sysfx is better or what

[Bikr]

I have never used a dtek kit , however I have friends who have and while they do work and proove to have no problems that we can see , they don't seem to achieve low temps @ the block even when paired with a sysfx radiator. The block just doesn't seem to be very well designed..

[techtvman]

so i think im going to go with the sysfx how quiet r they?

[Bikr]

I have used both types of their pumps and both are next to silent.. I used 3m foam tape to reduce the tiny amount of vibration that is there.. depending on which pumptank you get will determine how you mount it , my copper tank is mounted to the back of my antec matrix case with just the 2 sided 3m tape. my biohazard and toxic waste pumps both are using the sysfx mounting bracket but i put some 3m on them anyway before screwing the pump to the bracket just to make sure.. --Bikr

[techtvman]

should i go with the dual 80mm radiator that u posted or the single 80mm radiatior what would be the advantages where would i mount the dual fan radiator?

[Bikr]

What kind of case do you have?? I'd definatly go with the dual 80mm rad if you can find a way to get it into your case.. IF you have a picture of your case i'll help you find a place for it .. =).. also , if you would rather you can use 2 of the single fan 80mm rads as well that would work awesome. that's how drosero is setup..

here's the one at the top

http://www.modasylum.com/images/drosero/classified/drosero_top_rad.jpg


and here's the one in the back

http://www.modasylum.com/images/drosero/classified/drosero_back_rad.jpg

[techtvman]

should i include the 120mk2 kit and which mounting bracket none, aluminum or lucite?

[techtvman]

i think ill go w/ the dual one unless it wont fit i have an antec sx830 case i dont have a pic of it at the moment

[Bikr]

Depends which pump you ordered did you get a plexi front pump , or a copper pump?? i'd go with lucite for the mounting bracket.. the 120mk2 kit is awesome as long as you don't mind playing with the power supply you'll have to crimp into 2 wires it's really easy but if you are unsure just use a plug , the only point of the kit is to avoid another wire coming from your box..

[Bikr]

I found your case online.. it's perfect for a dual 80.. will need a little modding though.. it's the same guts as my case.. here is yours here..

http://store.yahoo.com/lib/directron/sx830back


and here's mine with the rad you could do the same thing but do a better job i was in a rush hahaha..


http://www.modasylum.com/sysfx/new_rear2_small.jpg

If you want a bigger pic and have the speed goto http://www.modasylum.com/sysfx/new_rear2.jpg and that should be the bigger picture.. it's perfect just cut out the back lose the purple brackets and drill some screw holes to mount the fans.. mount the fans to the rad and then put the grill on the outside fans on the inside and boom done.. =)

[techtvman]

was thinking about going with

Phoenix kits:
artica blue coolant color
pt180x- universal mount pump tank - unless u would suggest other or have a better idea
ex430 80mm dual fan radiator
include 120mk2 kit
mounting bracket lucite
for 185.85 total

i was thinking about ordering this online tho unless there is a need to call to order

do u have a other view of your case with that dual rad in it one facing from inside?

[Bikr]

http://www.modasylum.com/sysfx/inside_mounted_rad2_small.jpg

http://www.modasylum.com/sysfx/inside_mounted_rad_small.jpg

[Bikr]

that system sounds awesome.. =)

[techtvman]

I was on the sysfx website and noticed that there are two kinds of kits the infusion and the phoenix what is the difference between the 2 which one should i go with, the phoenix or infusion?

also someone mentioned that when i get watercooling and set it up for the first time i would need to clense the system by filling it then run it for two days and then flush it and refill it again and they say to add water wetter is that neccecery? i noticed that the kits come with the cooling fluid but i dont know if i still need to clense the system or if the cooling fluid has the water wetter in it or what if.

[Bikr]

the pheonix kit is 3/8'ths the infusion kit is 5/16ths.. I'd go pheonix but infusion will work perfect as well. You will not have to run any water through the system before running it full , but it's always a good idea to do a water run off of your system for a hour or 2 just to test for leaks. once that is passed let the water out and attatch to your system and add the sysfx coolant and it's ready to go.. --Bikr

[techtvman]

ok so ill go with the phoenix does the sysfx coolant have the water wetter in it, i would imagein the sysfx coolant is better than distilled water and thats why others are putting stuff into distilled water like water wetter im not sure

[Bikr]

read the label for water wetter , it's designed for cars.. it's garbage.. it's not meant for the tubing we use in pc cooling it's not designed for the pumps we use in pc cooling. It's for a car and i'm sure it works wonders on cars.. but don't put it in your system.. the sysfx liquid doesn't need it works wonders on it's own. --Bikr

[techtvman]

cool did not know that that makes it easy then so ill just put some water in it the first time check for leaks then if passed empy water and fill with the sysfx coolant and i should be on my way to low temp happyness :)
thanks for the help and info about watercooling i have never done it b4 and now i will sure try this out

so this is what i will by:
120MK
phoenix kit
Coolant: Blue (unless there is a color u think would look better)
PumpTank: PT-180-X
Exchanger: EX-430
188-MB
Bracket: Lucite

total : $185.85

[reifier]

I have a koolance case. I like it.
It makes water cooling easier.
I have found that basic mantainance includes:
- adding some liquid about once a year
- clearing the dust off the radiator once a year

That is about it....
I don't know if that is what koolance recommends but that
is what I do...

My athlon 1.2 runs at 27C with load and I have never seen it above 30

[Bikr]

in what ambient??

[techtvman]

my room is 77 F* dont know what that is in C*

[Bikr]

I meant the guy bragging about his core temp.. =)

[reifier]

Ambient is about 72F

[Mr-timbo]

Hi Guys I have a koolance case. love it work good. you can see Koolancehttp://www.angelfire.com/blues2/mrtimbo/

[Bikr]

koolance is for a mass production market and has no great cooling capacity.

[Nookie420]

I have a koolance case, slightly modded...... :lol: Koolance blocks suck, i use a Maze3. I do wanna put in a better radiator and pump and convert to larger hoses, thats their worse drawback, tiny freakin hose.

Bunch of pics of my setup:
http://www.forumoc.com/forums/showthread.p...&threadid=48562 (http://www.forumoc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48562)